Thoughts on @TorontoCentre Nov. 18 #FATCA #TorCen All Candidates Debate

Toronto Centre Debates Reports

Report 1 – Rogers TV – Some Candidates Debate – Nov. 13/13

Report 2 – St. Michael’s College Attempted Debate – Nov. 16/13

Report 3 – Toronto Centre “FATCA Centric” ALL Candidates – Nov. 18/13

Report 4 – Steve Paikan Discussion with Some Candidates – Nov. 20/13

Report 5 – Jarvis Collegiate – Some Candidates – November 20/13

Report 6 – Some Candidates Debate – Rosedale United Church – November 21, 2013

Report 7 – ThatChannel.com – Candidates Debate – November 23, 2013

Introduction – Equality of Canadian Citizenship – Are Some Canadians less equal than others?

The November 18 debate was the only Toronto Centre “All Candidates Debate“. It was/is the only debate to which each and every Toronto Centre candidate was invited. It was also a specific opportunity to discuss FATCA – The U.S. “Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act” – an extraterritorial law which the U.S. is trying to impose on Canada. It was also the only debate to focus on a topic of clear national importance. As a result it attracted the attention of organizations opposed to FATCA. It was attended by the CBC and attendees outside of Toronto Centre. It was not attended by the the majority of candidates (making one wonder why they are running for Parliament).

@TorontoCentre Debates: ALL #TorCen candidates invited to “#FATCA Centric” All Candidates – November 18/13

Update!!!

All #TorCen candidates have now been invited to the ONLY ALL @TorontoCentre candidates debate on #FATCA http://t.co/aQPGEQI7B1

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 12, 2013

Here is what is happening:

@TorontoCentre Debates ALL #TorCen candidates to #FATCA Centric All Candidates – November 18/13 http://t.co/fzwNCnCbue

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 10, 2013

What: Toronto Centre – All Candidates FATCA Centric Debate

When: Monday November 18 – 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.

Where:  Don Mills United Church – 126  O’Connor Dr. – M4K 2K7

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FATCA – The most important issue Canadians are not aware of and Candidates won’t talk about!

For a FATCA primer read this recent article in MacLeans Magazine:

What’s FATCA? The IRS peeking into Canadians’ bank accounts http://t.co/5o1cbu0X45 via @macleansmag

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 8, 2013

FATCA which stands for “Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act” is a U.S. law that the U.S. government is trying to impose directly on Canada. This U.S. law would require all Canadian banks to deliver confidential data/information about Canadian citizens directly to the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. The U.S. wants as much information as it can get about the rest of the world. It seeks to obtain this information in two ways:

Canada’s Charter of Rights – Political Debates and #TorCen Debates

#TorCen NDP candidate claims opponents are avoiding debate http://t.co/nzob03UIOa – and majority of @TorontoCentre candidates are excluded!

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 6, 2013

In this article NDP Candidate Linda McQuaig criticizes Liberal Candidate Chrystia Freeland and Conservative Candidate Geoff Pollock for avoiding Toronto Centre Debates. Although her criticisms may be legitimate, it is worth reminding Ms. McQuaig and the NDP that Jack Layton himself did not participate in Toronto Danforth Debates – while at the same time saying about candidates who skip debates that:

“I’d heard that it’s a malady that seems to be sweeping across the Conservative candidates across the country,” he said.

“I think that the best way to deal with it is to replace them in government so they can go back and get some bed rest, or whatever is required.”

#TorCen Candidates November 25 By-election

#TorCen Candidates November 25 By-election http://t.co/HGgaUlRKko

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) October 24, 2013

It’s Official – The Election is November 25, 2013

The Toronto Centre Candidates  …

Dorian Baxter – Progressive Canadian Party

Leslie Bory – Independent Candidate

Kevin Clarke – Independent Candidate

John Deverell – Green Party of Canada

Judi Falardeau – Libertarian Party

Chrystia Freeland – Liberal Party

Linda McQuaig – New Democratic Party

Michael Nicula – Online Party of Canada

Geoffrey Pollock – Conservative Party

John Turmel – Independent

Bahman Yazdanfar – Independent

The deadline for candidates is Monday November 4, 2013. You can monitor the entry of Toronto Centre Candidates here.

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Why Toronto Danforth is Canadians Choice

Meet Canadians Choice party Toronto Danforth Candidate John Richardson

Toronto Danforth Debates - All Candidates Meeting

Do you want an MPP? On June 12 #VoteJohnRichardson in @TorontoDanforth – https://t.co/HKwNFlL7II – Candidates for http://t.co/rbxdytPRGQ

— Toronto Danforth (@TorontoDanforth) June 12, 2014

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On June 12 Vote for CCP leader #BahmanYazdanfar

Voters in @TorontoCentre can vote for http://t.co/7nyp96HU2H leader #BahmanYazandar on June 12 – Meet Bahman here https://t.co/20E040qquP

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) June 12, 2014

 

 

 

@TorontCentre results including totals for #TorCen Candidates

Close to final results for @TorontoCentre by-election with tally for #TorCen candidates pic.twitter.com/1kYL6k7Chg

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 26, 2013

Thanks to all candidates for your work and contribution to democracy in Canada and service to the residents of Toronto Centre.

 

 

@TorontoCentre by-election a big party for the parties – #TorCen candidates irrelevant!

@cafreeland Thanks to all 11 #TorCen candidates who contributed to the democratic process by investing their time in @TorontoCentre

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 26, 2013

Running for public office is an important contribution to the community and to the Democratic process.

Therefore, I join with:

Congratulations to everyone, from every party, who ran in #byelxn42. You've all shown great courage in putting yourselves forward. #cdnpoli

— Wilfrid Laurier (@PMLaurier) November 26, 2013

and

Congratulations to Progressive Canadian #TorCen candidate @DorianBaxter_PC and all 26 candidates in #byelxn41. #cdnpoli

— Brian Marlatt (@BrianMarlatt) November 26, 2013

#TorCen Candidates Debates – ThatChannel.com – November 23, 2013

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@NationalPost confirms there are ONLY 4 #TorCen Candidates in @TorontoCentre election

Celebrity #TorCen byelection candidates both focused on income inequality but disagree on the cure http://t.co/87pVk1LJWA @nationalpost

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 24, 2013

There are four candidates in the much-watched Toronto Centre contest, one of four federal byelections Monday. But two of them are Linda McQuaig and Chrystia Freeland — celebrity authors and thinkers who have turned the race into a two-woman battle over a shared pet issue: income inequality. Ms. McQuaig, for the NDP, and the Liberal Ms. Freeland have different prescriptions, and agreed to debate the issue (and others) this week with Financial Post Editor Terence Corcoran:

Unbelievable. Looks like the National Post is on a campaign to maintain the “Party Stranglehold” on democratic process. You better join the party!

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Thoughts on the November 21 #TorCen Rosedale United Church some candidates debate

Toronto Centre Debates Reports

Report 1 – Rogers TV – Some Candidates Debate – Nov. 13/13

Report 2 – St. Michael’s College Attempted Debate – Nov. 16/13

Report 3 – Toronto Centre “FATCA Centric” ALL Candidates – Nov. 18/13

Report 4 – Steve Paikan Discussion with Some Candidates – Nov. 20/13

Report 5 – Jarvis Collegiate – Some Candidates – November 20/13

Report 6 – Rosedale United Church – November 21, 2013

Great turnout tonight for the North Rosedale debate #torcen pic.twitter.com/MPELzxHqCU

— Radey Barrack (@radeybarrack) November 22, 2013

Thoughts on “Some #TorCen Candidates #TorCendb8 – November 20 – Jarvis Collegiate

Toronto Centre Debates Reports

Report 1 – Rogers TV – Some Candidates Debate – Nov. 13/13

Report 2 – St. Michael’s College Attempted Debate – Nov. 16/13

Report 3 – Toronto Centre “FATCA Centric” ALL Candidates – Nov. 18/13

Report 4 – Steve Paikan Discussion with Some Candidates – Nov. 20/13

Report 5 – Jarvis Collegiate – Some Candidates – November 20/13

Toronto Centre candidates debate http://t.co/WVjBl7AN6w via @torontostar

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 21, 2013

November 20, 2013 – Jarvis Collegiate – 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.

First when the debate finally unfolded (more on this in a moment) the content was very similar to the Steve Pakin discussion. You will find some of my comments and a link to the podcast here. The Pakin discussion provides better content. Okay, back to Jarvis Collegiate.

The Opening Act – The Rights of Candidates

This debate was apparently organized by a number of associations in the Toronto Centre riding. It was moderated by a well known person – John Tory. It was NOT an All Candidates Debate. Once again, the organizers excluded a majority of the Candidates. This is a mistake and organizers who exclude candidates will continue to pay a price. This was no exception. I am surprised that the organizers didn’t learn from the debate on November 16 at St. Michael’s College. Those who are following these “debates” will recall that the behaviour of two candidates (which was linked to their not being invited) forced the “shut down” of the debate.

The opening act of the evening was Independent Candidate Candidate’s John Turmel protesting his exclusion from the debate. He stood on the stage and delayed the start of the debate (about 20 minutes) and was eventually removed by the police. Wouldn’t the better solution have been to just allow him to participate? Love him or hate him, he is a candidate on the ballot.

“Some” #TorCen Candidates debate on @TheAgenda

@CAFreeland : NO 2nd class Cdn citizenship in #TorCen. Including 4 @TorontoCentre #Americansabroad facing #FATCA? http://t.co/fwgrBPirRN

— Toronto Centre (@TorontoCentre) November 21, 2013

Some Toronto Centre Candidates interviewed by Steve Paikan @TheAgenda

Another Toronto Centre debate excluding the majority of Toronto Centre candidates.

I heard this after attending the November 20 debate at Jarvis Collegiate. (More on that in a separate post.) The discussion  with Steve Paikan was largely duplicated in the Jarvis Collegiate debate. Therefore those who couldn’t get to Jarvis Collegiate should listen to this.

For those interested in the FATCA question, I suggest that you listen for the few minutes starting at approximately 16:45. Chystia Freeland says some interesting things about equality of citizenship.